Suppose there are 10K images of sizes 2400 x 2400 are required to use in CNN.Acc to my view conventional computers the people use will be of use. Now the question is how to handle such large image sizes where there is no privileges of downsampling.

Here's the system requirements:-

Ubuntu 16.04 64-bit RAM 16 GB GPU 8 GB HDD 500 GB

1) Are there any techniques to handle such large images which are to be trained ?
2) What batch size is reasonable to use ?
3) Is there any precautions to take or any increase and decrease in hardware resources that I can do ?


Now the question is how to handle such large image sizes where there is no privileges of downsampling

I assume that by downsampling you mean scaling down the input before passing it into CNN. Convolutional layer allows to downsample the image within a network, by picking a large stride, which is going to save resources for the next layers. In fact, that's what it has to do, otherwise your model won't fit in GPU.

1) Are there any techniques to handle such large images which are to be trained?

Commonly researches scale the images to a resonable size. But if that's not an option for you, you'll need to restrict your CNN. In addition to downsampling in early layers, I would recommend you to get rid of FC layer (which normally takes most of parameters) in favor of convolutional layer. Also you will have to stream your data in each epoch, because it won't fit into your GPU.

Note that none of this will prevent heavy computational load in the early layers, exactly because the input is so large: convolution is an expensive operation and the first layers will perform a lot of them in each forward and backward pass. In short, training will be slow.

2) What batch size is reasonable to use ?

Here's another problem. A single image takes 2400x2400x3x4 (3 channels and 4 bytes per pixel) which is ~70Mb, so you can hardly afford even a batch size 10. More realistically would be 5. Note that most of the memory will be taken by CNN parameters. I think in this case it makes sense reduce the size by using 16-bit values rather than 32-bit - this way you'll be able to double the batches.

3) Is there any precautions to take or any increase and decrease in hardware resources that I can do?

Your bottleneck is GPU memory. If you can afford another GPU, get it and split the network across them. Everything else is insignificant compared to GPU memory.

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    $\begingroup$ Thank you. I already followed few of the suggestions you provided in this answer. Good answer. $\endgroup$ – WaterRocket8236 Oct 6 '17 at 5:22

Usually for images the feature set is the pixel density values and in this case it will lead to quite a big feature set; also down sampling the images is also not recommended as you may lose (actually will) loose important data.

[1] But there are some techniques that can help you reduce the feature set size, approaches like PCA(Principle Component Analysis) helps you in selection of important feature subset.

For detailed information see link http://spark.apache.org/docs/latest/ml-features.html#pca.

[2] Other than that to reduce the computational expense while training your Neural Network, you can use Stochastic Gradient Descent, rather than conventional use of Gradient Descent approach, that would reduce the size of dataset required for training in each iteration. Thus your dataset size to be used in one iteration would reduce, thus would reduce the time required to train the Network.

The exact batch size to be used is dependent on your distribution for training dataset and testing datatset, a more general use is 70-30. Where you can also use above mentioned Stochastic approach to reduce required time.

Detail for Stochastic Gradient Descent http://scikit-learn.org/stable/modules/sgd.html

[3] The Hardware seems apt for the upgradation would be required, still if required look at cloud solutions like AWS where you can get free account subscription upto a limit of usage.

  • $\begingroup$ Thank you for the answer. Update the answer if you get more info. $\endgroup$ – WaterRocket8236 Sep 1 '17 at 10:48
  • $\begingroup$ Thanks for that link on Stochastic Gradient Descent, and welcome to AI! $\endgroup$ – DukeZhou Sep 1 '17 at 18:33

Such large data cannot be loaded into your memory. Lets split what you can do into two:

  1. Rescale all your images to smaller dimensions. You can rescale them to 112x112 pixels. In your case, because you have a square image, there will be no need for cropping. You will still not be able to load all these images into your RAM at a goal.

  2. The best option is to use a generator function that will feed the data in batches. Please refer to the use of fit_generator as used in Keras. If your model parameters become too big to fit into GPU memory, consider using batch normalization or using a Residual model to reduce your number of parameter.

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    $\begingroup$ Why would you choose a size of 112x112 pixels? It is no potence of 2 and not a divisor of 2400. $\endgroup$ – Andi R Aug 28 '18 at 15:22
  • $\begingroup$ @AndiR. Here is the thing. When it comes to input dimension, one is free to choose what ever size. This is because, if there are any dimension incompatibilities down in the network, this can easily be resolved using zero padding. Thus, there is no fixed methodology to the size of the input. What one must be careful about is making sure too much down sampling does not affect the input quality. Please take a look at this paper that makes use of the 112x112 dimension. (cv-foundation.org/openaccess/content_iccv_2015/papers/…) $\endgroup$ – rocksyne Aug 29 '18 at 1:13

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