Assume we have a large number of proofs in first order predicate calculus. Assume we also have the axioms, corollaries, and theorems in that area of mathematics in that form too.

Consider the each proposition that was proved and the body of existing theory surrounding that specific proposition as an example in a training set and a known good proof for the proposition as the associated labels. Now, consider a deep artificial network designed specifically to train on this example set, and the hyper-parameters set correctly to do so.

Is it possible to train a deep artificial network in such a way that the presentation of a new proposition and the existing theory surrounding it presented in first order predicate calculus at the input would produce a proof at the output?

(Of course, such proofs should then be be checked manually.)

If the proportion of good proofs resulting was sufficiently high, might it be possible to create a genetic algorithm that proposes propositions to the trained deep network thereby creating proofs?

Is that possible?

Would it be possible to use this kind of deep network design to solve the Collatz conjecture or the Riemann conjecture or at least rearrange patterns in a way that mathematicians are more able to arrive at a legitimate proof?

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    $\begingroup$ As far as I can think a "resounding no", NN's are only good for function approximations (very good)...saying an NN could do what you say it could do makes an underlying assumption that all proofs are somehow a function of the probelms, varibales or other things...and I don't know whether someone has said so $\endgroup$ – DuttaA Aug 4 '18 at 13:14
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    $\begingroup$ @DouglasDaseeco almost all proofs are by mathematicians imagining something abstract 'intuitionally' and then giving it to life....whereas NN's re definitely not capable of that..they will only be able to prove petty or similar theorems like finding an exception case and thus disprove or something like that $\endgroup$ – DuttaA Aug 13 '18 at 13:21
  • $\begingroup$ @DuttaA, intuition is far easier to teach a neural net than logic. Artificial nets can sort ambiguously addressed mail without a rules engine. Feature extraction and unsupervised categorization are closer to intuition too. Logical operations like multiplying doubles is insurmountable. In developmental psychology, intuitive obtaining of adult attention occurs years before logical AND and OR conceptualization. Children don't think causally, "If I whine, mom will break down and give me sugar." They execute a function, not a plan. In my answer here, the first two items are most difficult. $\endgroup$ – FauChristian Aug 15 '18 at 12:47
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    $\begingroup$ Might I suggest using a NN to guide a traditional theorem prover. The regular theorem prover presents the possibilities to the network, and the NN just has to pick one. That way, it doesn't need to learn what is and isn't valid logic, only what is interesting. $\endgroup$ – PyRulez Sep 12 '18 at 21:26

Existing production systems, developed over the last few decades, have the rules of inference coded into them. They are based on the vision of Leibniz that all classical logic can be encoded into symbolic language and processed mechanically. First order predicate logic was developed and a nomeclature was formalized.

Although the vision of automatic theorem proving was considerably challenged by the Gödel's two incompleteness theorems, Turing's completeness work and the development of an architecture to practically realize it by von Neumann revived the work toward automating the mechanical process of inference.

MIT's AI lab, during the time of Minsky, was alive with such efforts, but what they called the combinatory explosion showed that there was insufficient computing resource availability to search the space required to automatically prove arbitrary theorems of non-trivial complexity. Large parallel computers called connection machines and various schemes, using meta rules and heuristic approaches, were employed to overcome the combinatory explosion problem.

Artificial networks were introduced and the idea that they could rival production machines was trounced by the LISP community when first proposed. However, in the context of considerable success in increasing computing resources and the recent achievements in machine learning, many have begun to ask questions that had been shelved in the twentieth century.

We already know that artificial networks can learn arbitrary logical and algebraic functions, many of which are PAC Learnable.1 Given the proper learning environment, learning logical inference is clearly something the cerebral cortex can do at its current point in evolution. Whether neural networks will reach that level of cognition is an open question many ask.

That mainstream AI and machine learning research is not focusing on artificial network acquisition of logical inference rules, largely because programming them into a system like DRools and other commonly used production systems seems the more rational approach does not mean it will always be. The question is whether there is a sufficient return on investment to do what may be interesting but certainly expensive, when other solutions already exist.

This question is similar to another Artificial Intelligence Stack Exchange question on how good AI is in math. One of the answers given there is applicable here.

It is important not to dismiss any approach in this period of time, since the recent interest in AI has not only reignited government spending but also commercial spending. This spending increases personnel, computing power, and incentive to overcome obstacles that might have been thought to be insurmountable previously.


[1] PAC Learning is a framework for determining the practical computability of learning algorithms given the features of the class of hypotheses that can be learned using the given model and the expected accuracy and confidence of the learning process.


Your idea may be feasible in general, but a neural network is probably the wrong high level tool to use to explore this problem.

A neural network's strength is in finding internal representations that allow for a highly nonlinear solution when mapping inputs to outputs. When we train a neural network, those mappings are learned statistically through repetition of examples. This tends to produce models that interpolate well when given data similar to training set, but that extrapolate badly.

Neural network models also lack context, such that if you used a generative model (e.g. an RNN trained on sequences that create valid or interesting proof) then it can easily produce statistically pleasing but meaningless rubbish.

What you will need is some organising principle that allows you to explore and confirm proofs in a combinatorial fashion. In fact something like your idea has already been done more than once, but I am not able to find a reference currently.

None of this stops you using a neural network within an AI that searches for proofs. There may be places within a maths AI where you need a good heuristic to guide searches for instance - e.g. in context X is sub-proof Y likely to be interesting or relevant. Assessing a likelihood score is something that a neural network can do as part of a broader AI scheme. That's similar to how neural networks are combined with reinforcement learning.

It may be possible to build your idea entirety out of neural networks in principle. After all, there are good reasons to suspect human reasoning works similarly using biological neurons (not proven that artificial ones can match this either way). However, the architecture of such a system is beyond any modern NN design or training setup. It definitely will not be a matter of just adding enough layers then feeding in data.

  • $\begingroup$ Max isn't looking for a tool. He began with, "Imagine I have a list of all problems & proof,s" in the question before the edit." The excessive edit hid that first word. He's thinking about feasibility, which is a legitimate research activity. Research usually begins with imagining and feasibility. Max is not the only one who recognizes the the importance of his question either. There are hundreds who know that there may be a way to train a network to prove by optimizing the application of inference rules. Learned intuition. NietzscheanAI quoted Hofstadter discussing this very thing. $\endgroup$ – FauChristian Aug 7 '18 at 7:09
  • $\begingroup$ @FauChristian I read "is it possible" as whether it is achievable using currently known techniques, and how one would start such research again using existing approaches. I agree it is possible to answer using a more theoretical angle. It might be an interesting Meta question how OP can flag the difference, and how we can confirm intent $\endgroup$ – Neil Slater Aug 7 '18 at 7:22

What We Know

According to a World Bank page, "Today, there are around 200 million higher education students in the world, up from 89 million in 1998." At least 1 in 100 have, as a mathematics requirement, had to develop a proof for a theorem, and live at least 40 years afterward.

Although there are at least 20 million neural nets that can prove a theorem, they fall short of examples that would answer this question in the affirmative. These neural networks are biological, not artificial, and they have mostly proven previously proven theorems, not the Collatz conjecture or the Riemann conjecture.

What Some Believe

Those who believe that deep Q-learning and attention based devices will be joined by other learning system designs until the faculties of the human brain are simulated and perhaps surpassed, would likely include theorem proving as one of those human capabilities. These would likely declare predicate logic and inference as just another complex cognitive function that will be achieved in artificial systems.

Those who believe that some capabilities are imbued into humans and are reserved capabilities, may declare predicate logic and inference as reserved to humans alone.

Current State of Progress

There are no academic articles indicating the ability to prove even the simplest proofs using predicate logic and inference. It is possible that a government or private enterprise has achieved some level of success in doing so, but such has not been disclosed.

The idea that artificial networks, if developed appreciably, could surpass production systems, AI systems that are abased on productions or rules, in their areas of greatest effectiveness was proposed early in the development of AI. It was disputed then and disputed now, however the arguments are not mathematical, so there is no strong indication that it is impossible.

Certainly other cognitive aspects of human thought are important objectives of AI research. Dialog, automated education, planning, strategic analysis, and vehicle piloting are all aspects of higher thought that demand more than DQN and attention based network approaches can now deliver, but the research effort in these areas are appreciable and well funded.

Potential Approach

Research toward logical cognitive abilities should begin proofs already know, far simpler than the conjectures mentioned in the question. For example, it has been proven that the sum of two non-negative integers must be another non-negative integer. In predicate calculus, that can be represented as a character string.

∀ a∈C, b∈C: s=a+b ⇒ s∈C

It says that a and b being members of the set of counting numbers, that the s, defined as the sum of the two, must also be a member of the set of counting numbers. It's proof can also be represented as a sequence of character strings of first order predicate calculus.

No Small Research Project

Such an example may seem simple to someone who has taken years of math courses and has constructed proofs. It is not simple for a child, and it is very difficult to get an artificial network to converge to a function that applies all the rules of logical inference and incorporates meta-rules for arriving at a proof for a formal system such as integer arithmetic.

Turing complete networks, such as RNNs, will certainly have advantages over MLPs (multilayer perceptrons). Attention based networks may be a reasonable research option. There are others indicated in the references below.

A parallel computing platform would be needed for the research, since the input vector may be hundreds of Kbytes. The sizes of examples and how many would be needed is difficult to estimate without getting a year or two into the research process.

The definition of counting numbers, the plus sign, and the equals sign must first be defined, and those definitions and a number of axioms, postulates, lemmas, and corollaries must be part of the input example in the formal form like the proposal to be proved above, along with that proposal.

And that's the work to prepare only one example. You'd need thousands to train intuitive knowledge about the rules of inference into a deep network. (I chose the word INTUITIVE very deliberately for theoretical reasons that would take at least a hundred pages to explain well.)

This is no small project since the example data set must have at least a few thousand cases, and each case, though it may share some theory, must be set up so that the proposal is perfectly formed and the necessary body of theory is also presented in perfect form at the input for each training iteration.

My guess is that it would take a team of bright researchers with the appropriate understanding of deep networks, convergence, and predicate calculus about ten years to train a network to give viable proofs in response to simple mathematical proposals.

But It Would Be No Small Achievement

That may seem an absurd endeavor for some, but it would be the first time someone taught a computer how to be logical. It took nature just under the age of earth to teach logical inference to an organism, Socrates.

People assume that because a computer is made up of digital circuits that perform logic by design that computers are logical. Anyone who has been around software development for decades with the inclination to think deeper than hacking for fun or money knows differently. Even after careful programming, computers do not simulate logical inference and cannot correct their own programmed behavior for any arbitrary bug. In fact, most of software development today is bug fixing.

Simulating logical thought would be a major step toward simulating cognition and the wider array of human capabilities.


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It's possible, but probably not a good idea.

Logical proof is one of the oldest areas of AI, and there are purpose-built techniques that don't need to be trained, and that are more reliable than a neural-network approach would be, since they don't rely on statistical reasoning, and instead use the mathematician's friend: deductive reasoning.

The main field is called "Automated Theorem Proving", and it's old enough that it's calcified a bit as a research area. There are not a lot of innovations, but some people still work on it.

The basic idea is that theorem proving is just classical or heuristic guided search: you start from a state consisting of a set of accepted premises. Then you apply any valid logical rule of inference to generate new premises that must also be true, expanding the set of knowledge that you have. Eventually, you can prove a desired premise, either through enumerative searches like breadth first search or iterative deepening, or through something like A* with a domain-specific heuristic. A lot of solvers also use just one logical rule (unification) because it's complete, and reduces the branching factor of the search.

  • $\begingroup$ The lack of people still working on it may be the cause for lack of innovation. We shouldn't dissuade Max so quickly, especially since the automated theorem proving work in the early days of LISP did not apply the wider array of current available techniques. Why? This is what I spoke of in the other comment. The production system people didn't interact much with the perceptron people. There were insults, but the universities involved have removed them from public view. $\endgroup$ – FauChristian Aug 7 '18 at 6:53

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